Cidanel Afuran
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Posted - 2016.01.20 16:53:58 -
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Leonerd Dice wrote:You shoulda kept reading we discussed that. It's annoying. And the prospect isnt a proper upgrade. and the yield is way outta whack. Cause I mean it's a Gas Miner not a Cyno Lighter. So everytime you go to mine some gas youre switching that thing in and out in and out. With every process with every cycle.
Yes it is. I've made the majority of my ISK gas mining for a while now. The most efficient way (assuming you are starting in HS) is to scan down five or six holes in a chain, bookmark all the sites, then come back and harvest all the gas. Assuming you don't want to kill the sleepers, having the expanded ore hold means you can huff a lot of gas before they show up. Now let's assume you want to scan with your prospect. No big deal. The cargo hold was expanded from that of a venture for a reason. Carry a depot and refit from a probe launcher to gas harvester ONCE, after you have scanned every site in those five or six connected wormholes. The needed use of a mobile depot is by design, because a covert ops frigate that could scan/fit a cyno/etc without the risk of being caught sitting on a depot is a bit too powerful.
Thinking about time, say it takes you 3-4 minutes to scan down each WH, so you spend 20-30 minutes scanning five WHs, you end up with a dozen gas sites, that's a few hours of non-stop gas mining, even assuming you don't kill the sleepers. And again, you only need to wait the minute for the depot to online once in that three and a half hour gas mining expedition. Working as intended.
Remiel Pollard wrote:I just threw this together in eft
[Prospect, New Setup 1]
Damage Control II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 50
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 50
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Gas Cloud Harvester II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Still room to upgrade that micro to an enduring or a t2, even with dual medium asb, enough to tank surprise sleepers, with a velocity of 3.8km/s, giving you a good chance to burn out of range of other surprise attackers, and of course, the covops cloak and a warp speed of 8.4. I don't even mine, or do wh, and was just trying to think of what might provide the best chance for survival for one gas mining in wh. I don't know how good this is but a w.hole gas miner could probably comment.
The fact that I can fit dual MASB on a small ship without gimping AND have the MWD is pretty incredible though, and yield is 160 with all lvl 5 skills. Definitely fits the bill of a specialised gas mining ship in my book.
I would put 2 stabs and 2 nanofibers in the lows, swap a shield booster for an afterburner, and put polycarbon engine housings in the rigs. You really don't need a tank, if you get caught, you're basically dead if you can't warp out right away. Sleepers always spawn at least 60kish away from the clouds, so assuming you are paying attention, you should never be surprised by sleepers. Warp to the clouds cloaked, if there aren't any there, start mining and get out when they show up.
Duel prop will save your life for the rare time you get scrammed by someone who decloaked close to you.
In my close to a year of gas mining in WHs, I have (knock on wood) never lost a prospect. It is a specialized ship, but it does its job very well ATM. |